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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Quick note on this: they’ve added some caveats to their proposals – worth re-reading now…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gray, Andrew D.<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 September 2014 10:23<br><b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Re: This might not work they way they hope...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This certainly sounds a bit quixotic – really not sure what it’s trying to achieve beyond a personal preference on URL naming methods! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>“...</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:#E5E5E5'>especial emphasis in the awful naming proposals by software developers that ignore librarian traditions and in many ways are going against intellectual rights of depositing authors. We truly believe the lengthy and useless addresses coined for the repository items have a negative impact in their web visibility and affect the authors will to deposit as it makes difficult the citation of full texts in future papers.</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>From the perspective of (5), about twenty or so UK universities use eprints.*.ac.uk hostnames (not counting departmental ones) and another half-dozen dspace.*.ac.uk. This proposal would quietly delist such organisations as Glasgow, Southampton, Newcastle, and the LSE...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(the URL structure proposals are even stranger – a hostname can be fixed, but the prohibition on things like </span><strong><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:inherit;color:red;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;background:#E5E5E5'>handle/2027.42</span></strong><span style='color:#1F497D'> may as well just say “we personally dislike this bit of software”.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Andrew.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Salter [<a href="mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk">mailto:J.Salter@leeds.ac.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 04 September 2014 09:34<br><b>To:</b> 'eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk'<br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Re: This might not work they way they hope...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for forwarding this on – it’s interesting (and worrying / a bit silly / stupid).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>(2) - As a consortium, we’re pretty much screwed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>(5) - I wonder what they make of ‘eprints’ [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eprint] vs ‘ePrints’?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’ll be bending their ear about these proposals!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Brady<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 September 2014 23:56<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] This might not work they way they hope...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I picked this up from another list I am subscribed to, and thought I would share, as some of these will impact ePrint systems….&nbsp; The list member noticed it on one of their DSpace lists that they are subscribed to,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;“&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>proposal from the Webometrics team to change the criteria for including or excluding IR's in the list and for modifying some of the ranking criteria.</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Main proposed changes are:</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:17.85pt;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:150%;background:#E5E5E5;vertical-align:baseline'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>1.</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:7.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp; &nbsp;Calculation of Scholar indicator will&nbsp;<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>no longer be filtered by pdf.</span></strong></span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:17.85pt;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:150%;background:#E5E5E5;vertical-align:baseline'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>2.</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:7.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp; Institutional repositories that don’t use the<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;institutional domain</span></strong>&nbsp;will be excluded.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:17.85pt;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:150%;background:#E5E5E5;vertical-align:baseline'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>3.</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:7.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp; Pseudo-institutional repositories of&nbsp;<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>academic subunits</span></strong>&nbsp;will be excluded.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:17.85pt;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:72.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:150%;background:#E5E5E5;vertical-align:baseline'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>4.</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:7.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:9.0pt;line-height:150%;color:#333333'>&nbsp;&nbsp; Repositories using&nbsp;<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ports</span></strong>&nbsp;others than 80 or 8080</span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<span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>_____________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>This email (including any attached files) is confidential and is for the intended recipient(s) only. If you received this email by mistake, please, as a courtesy, tell the sender, then delete this email.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>The views and opinions are the originator's and do not necessarily reflect those of the University of Southern Queensland. Although all reasonable precautions were taken to ensure that this email contained no viruses at the time it was sent we accept no liability for any losses arising from its receipt.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>The University of Southern Queensland is a registered provider of education with the Australian Government.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-AU>(CRICOS Institution Code QLD 00244B / NSW 02225M, TEQSA PRV12081 )<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>This message (and any attachments) is for the recipient only. NERC is subject to the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and the contents of this email and any reply you make may be disclosed by NERC unless it is exempt from release under the Act. Any material supplied to NERC may be stored in an electronic records management system.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>