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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s notable that neither the DC or Simple metadata is appearing in the output HTML. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Check that </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><archivename>/cfg/lang/<lang>/templates/default.xml includes <epc:pin ref="head" /> within the head element of the html doc and add it if it’s not there. If you have multiple languages you may need to check the default template for each language.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nault, Pierre<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 March 2013 11:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Re: Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed byGoogle Scholar?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the reply. In eprint_render.pl I have :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>my $links = $session->make_doc_fragment();<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> $links->appendChild( $session->plugin( "Export::Simple" )->dataobj_to_html_header( $eprint ) );<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> $links->appendChild( $session->plugin( "Export::DC" )->dataobj_to_html_header( $eprint ) );<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m pretty sure that Export::DC is working based on the response we have from OAI-PMH protocol. For Export::Simple I’m not sure -> where should I look if plugins are disabled ? One other thing, base code of our repository have been modified substantially. Where can I verified if the name of the field of the schema have been changed ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pierre Nault<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Mark Gregson<br><b>Envoyé :</b> 10 mars 2013 19:50<br><b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><b>Cc :</b> Paul THIRION; Nguyen, Minh-Quang<br><b>Objet :</b> [EP-tech] Re: Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed byGoogle Scholar?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Pierre<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Have a look in eprints/<archivename>/cfg/cfg.d/eprint_render.pl in the anonymous function starting:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>$c</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#339933'>-></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#009900'>{</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>eprint_render<span style='color:#009900'>}</span> <span style='color:#339933'>=</span> <b><span style='color:black'>sub</span></b> <span style='color:#009900'>{</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the EPrints native metadata is being rendered you should be able to find the following lines:<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#B1B100'>my</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <span style='color:blue'>$links</span> <span style='color:#339933'>=</span> <span style='color:blue'>$session</span><span style='color:#339933'>-></span><span style='color:#006600'>make_doc_fragment</span><span style='color:#009900'>()</span><span style='color:#339933'>;<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>$links</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#339933'>-></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#006600'>appendChild</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#009900'>(</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <span style='color:blue'>$session</span><span style='color:#339933'>-></span><span style='color:#006600'>plugin</span><span style='color:#009900'>(</span><span style='color:red'>'Export::Simple'</span><span style='color:#009900'>)</span><span style='color:#339933'>-></span><span style='color:#006600'>dataobj_to_html_header</span><span style='color:#009900'>(</span><span style='color:blue'>$eprint</span><span style='color:#009900'>)</span> <span style='color:#009900'>)</span><span style='color:#339933'>;<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If it’s not there you should be able to add it, reload the configuration/restart httpd and it will just work. There are caveats, e.g., if you have changed the name of fields in the schema or the plugin has been disabled.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C50B45'>Mark Gregson</span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>| Applications and Development Team Leader<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Library eServices | Queensland University of Technology<br>Level 3 | R Block | Kelvin Grove Campus | GPO Box 2434 | Brisbane 4001<br>Phone: +61 7 3138 3782 | Web:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#A3A3A3'> </span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0000FD'><a href="http://www.qut.edu.au/">http://eprints.qut.edu.au/</a><br></span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0080FF'>ABN: 83 791 724 622<br>CRICOS No: 00213J<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nault, Pierre<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 9 March 2013 1:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Paul THIRION; Nguyen, Minh-Quang<br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Re: Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We have removed the </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /> from default.xml. We confirm that we are running on Eprints version 3.1-2008-12-03-r3984. Anurag : you mention that all versions of eprints over 3.0 can generate the machine-readable bibliographic metadata. Obviously this is not the case for us. Following your assertion, something is probably missing in the configuration of our repository. I’m not too familiar with the config of eprints: I would much appreciate any help on activating this feature.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Pierre Nault</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Stevan Harnad<br><b>Envoyé :</b> 7 mars 2013 13:24<br><b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> List<br><b>Cc :</b> Paul THIRION; Nguyen, Minh-Quang<br><b>Objet :</b> [EP-tech] Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Anurag Acharya <<a href="mailto:acha@google.com">acha@google.com</a>></span><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: Re: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?</span></b><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>5 March, 2013 10:30:35 PM EST</span><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>></span><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Cc: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>, Couture Marc <<a href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>></span><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Hi Marc: I took a quick look at the examples you mentioned. I noticed couple of issues:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>First things first, you are explicitly asking for these pages to not be indexed. For the two examples you mentioned:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>view-source:<a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254/">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>view-source:<a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252/">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>A noindex robots metatag on an html page asks web search services to not index the page.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Second, I don't know if this is an old version of eprints or a custom repository but looks like it doesn't include the machine-readable bibliographic metadata that eprints 3.0 and later embed using metatags. Eg: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>view-source:<a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/349474/">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/349474/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA> <meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Ohka, Seii" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Sakai, Mai" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Bohnert, Stephanie" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Igarashi, Hiroko" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Deinhardt, Katrin" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Schiavo, Giampietro" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Nomoto, Akio" /><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>[...]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>If you are using an older version of eprints, I would recommend upgrading to a version later than 3.0. If you are using a different repository software, I would recommend <a href="http://roar.eprints.org/help/google_scholar.html">http://roar.eprints.org/help/google_scholar.html</a> and <a href="http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html">http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>anurag<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR-CA>On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>On 2013-03-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Brody <<a href="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:23:06 -0500, Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>I have been told that closed access deposits for<br><a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca</a> are not being indexed by Google Scholar: Is<br>there any way around this?<br><br>(I mean the metadata, of course, not the full-text, which I know is<br>unharvestable till access is re-set as OA).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><br>There's no reason that the metadata pages shouldn't be indexed, but I don't<br>think (?) Google Scholar will list metadata-only records from repositories.<br><br>A specific example would be useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>It's bad news (for the Button) if GS does not index the metadata of Closed Access deposits. (GS certainly indexes plenty of papers that do not have a free full-text version on the web).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Could this (if it's true) be fixed by optimizing the way an EPrints IR presents itself to google and GS (levels of embedding or something like that)? I seem to remember Les saying that the depth of documents was important.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>A DSpace IR, Orbi, has 50% Closed Access contents (for example, <a href="http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/browse?type=datepublished&rpp=20&value=2012" target="_blank">here</a>). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>These are all picked up by Google, for example this one: "Tubulin isoforms identified in the brain by MALDI in-source decay"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>but they appear very late in the Google hit list (especially for much-sited or multi-cited papers)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span lang=FR-CA>and the Orbi version does not seem to be picked up by GS at all.</span></i><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>This is extremely important, because it affects the efficacy of the Button, and thereby the power of an immediate-deposit mandate (and the incentive to adopt one).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Is there any way to address this problem directly in EPrints (plus advice for our cousins in DSpace)?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA>Stevan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA>From: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA>Couture Marc <<a href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" target="_blank">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA>Subject: RE: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?</span></b><span lang=FR-CA><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA>Date: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA>4 March, 2013 6:17:13 PM EST<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-CA>To: </span></b><span lang=FR-CA>Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>, Leslie Carr <<a href="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk" target="_blank">lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR-CA>Hi,<br><br>My belief that Google / Scholar doesn't index closed access documents (more precisely, the HTML page with the metadata) is based upon a simple check with two closed access documents in Archipel :<br><br>1. <a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252</a> <br><br>This is the manuscript of a published article (Title : So into it they forget what time it is?)<br><br>If I put the title (between quotes) in Google or Google Scholar, all I see is the published (toll access) version :<br><br><a href="http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430" target="_blank">http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430</a> <br><br>2. <a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254</a> <br><br>The title is: Discretionary power of project managers in knowledge intensive firms and gender issues<br><br>Again, Google Scholar finds only the published version (Google doesn't even find it):<br><br><a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract" target="_blank">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract</a> <br><br>On the same results page, one sees another paper, available in open acces in Archipel, citing this one.<br><br>Both manuscripts have been in Archipel for more than one year (deposit date: Nov 2011).<br><br><br>Marc Couture<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>