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bold;">To:</span></b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 11 March 2013 5:21 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Eprints-tech Digest, Vol 54, Issue 17<br> </font> </div> <br>Send Eprints-tech mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech" target="_blank">http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-request@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech-request@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-request@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing
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href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>Message-ID:<br> <trinity-69e43c3b-1fc0-4b94-bdc0-54db99c511f2-1362937354358@3capp-gmx-bs01><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <a href="http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/eprints-tech/attachments/20130310/ff28698a/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/eprints-tech/attachments/20130310/ff28698a/attachment-0001.html</a> <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:50:09 +1000<br>From: Mark Gregson <<a ymailto="mailto:mark.gregson@qut.edu.au" href="mailto:mark.gregson@qut.edu.au">mark.gregson@qut.edu.au</a>><br>Subject: [EP-tech] Re: Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by<br> Google Scholar?<br>To: "<a
ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>Cc: Paul THIRION <<a ymailto="mailto:Paul.Thirion@ulg.ac.be" href="mailto:Paul.Thirion@ulg.ac.be">Paul.Thirion@ulg.ac.be</a>>, "Nguyen, Minh-Quang"<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:nguyen.minh-quang@uqam.ca" href="mailto:nguyen.minh-quang@uqam.ca">nguyen.minh-quang@uqam.ca</a>><br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:A394AD7795D78648887B45809E4586570100CA62@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au" href="mailto:A394AD7795D78648887B45809E4586570100CA62@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au">A394AD7795D78648887B45809E4586570100CA62@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hi Pierre<br><br><br>Have a look in
eprints/<archivename>/cfg/cfg.d/eprint_render.pl in the anonymous function starting:<br><br>$c->{eprint_render} = sub {<br><br>If the EPrints native metadata is being rendered you should be able to find the following lines:<br><br>my $links = $session->make_doc_fragment();<br><br>$links->appendChild( $session->plugin('Export::Simple')->dataobj_to_html_header($eprint) );<br><br>If it's not there you should be able to add it, reload the configuration/restart httpd and it will just work. There are caveats, e.g., if you have changed the name of fields in the schema or the plugin has been disabled.<br><br>Regards<br>Mark<br><br>Mark Gregson | Applications and Development Team Leader<br>Library eServices | Queensland University of Technology<br>Level 3 | R Block | Kelvin Grove Campus | GPO Box 2434 | Brisbane 4001<br>Phone: +61 7 3138 3782 | Web: <a href="http://eprints.qut.edu.au/"
target="_blank">http://eprints.qut.edu.au/</a><<a href="http://www.qut.edu.au/" target="_blank">http://www.qut.edu.au/</a>><br>ABN: 83 791 724 622<br>CRICOS No: 00213J<br><br><br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Nault, Pierre<br>Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 1:32 AM<br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br>Cc: Paul THIRION; Nguyen, Minh-Quang<br>Subject: [EP-tech] Re: Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<br><br>Hi all,<br><br> We have removed the <meta name="robots"
content="noindex,nofollow" /> from default.xml. We confirm that we are running on Eprints version 3.1-2008-12-03-r3984. Anurag : you mention that all versions of eprints over 3.0 can generate the machine-readable bibliographic metadata. Obviously this is not the case for us. Following your assertion, something is probably missing in the configuration of our repository. I'm not too familiar with the config of eprints: I would much appreciate any help on activating this feature.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Pierre Nault<br><br><br><br>De : <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk"
href="mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>] De la part de Stevan Harnad<br>Envoy? : 7 mars 2013 13:24<br>? : <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> List<br>Cc : Paul THIRION; Nguyen, Minh-Quang<br>Objet : [EP-tech] Fwd: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<br><br><br><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br>From: Anurag Acharya <<a ymailto="mailto:acha@google.com" href="mailto:acha@google.com">acha@google.com</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:acha@google.com" href="mailto:acha@google.com">acha@google.com</a>>><br>Subject: Re: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<br>Date: 5 March, 2013 10:30:35 PM EST<br>To: Stevan Harnad <<a
ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>><br>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>, Couture Marc <<a ymailto="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>>><br><br>Hi Marc: I took a quick look at the examples you mentioned. I noticed couple of issues:<br><br>First things first, you are explicitly asking for these pages to not be indexed. For the two examples you
mentioned:<br>view-source:<a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254/" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254/</a><br><meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /><br><br>view-source:<a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252/" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252/</a><br><meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" /><br><br>A noindex robots metatag on an html page asks web search services to not index the page.<br><br>Second, I don't know if this is an old version of eprints or a custom repository but looks like it doesn't include the machine-readable bibliographic metadata that eprints 3.0 and later embed using metatags. Eg:<br>view-source:<a href="http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/349474/" target="_blank">http://eprints.soton.ac.uk/349474/</a><br><br> <meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Ohka, Seii" /><br><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Sakai, Mai" /><br><meta
name="eprints.creators_name" content="Bohnert, Stephanie" /><br><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Igarashi, Hiroko" /><br><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Deinhardt, Katrin" /><br><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Schiavo, Giampietro" /><br><meta name="eprints.creators_name" content="Nomoto, Akio" /><br>[...]<br><br>If you are using an older version of eprints, I would recommend upgrading to a version later than 3.0. If you are using a different repository software, I would recommend <a href="http://roar.eprints.org/help/google_scholar.html" target="_blank">http://roar.eprints.org/help/google_scholar.html</a> and <a href="http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/intl/en/scholar/inclusion.html</a><br><br>cheers,<br>anurag<br><br><br><br><br><br>On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Stevan Harnad <<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk"
href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>On 2013-03-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Brody <<a ymailto="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk">tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk">tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>> wrote:<br><br>On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:23:06 -0500, Stevan Harnad <<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>><br>wrote:<br>I have been told that closed access deposits for<br><a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca</a><<a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/"
target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/</a>> are not being indexed by Google Scholar: Is<br>there any way around this?<br><br>(I mean the metadata, of course, not the full-text, which I know is<br>unharvestable till access is re-set as OA).<br><br>There's no reason that the metadata pages shouldn't be indexed, but I don't<br>think (?) Google Scholar will list metadata-only records from repositories.<br><br>A specific example would be useful.<br><br>It's bad news (for the Button) if GS does not index the metadata of Closed Access deposits. (GS certainly indexes plenty of papers that do not have a free full-text version on the web).<br><br>Could this (if it's true) be fixed by optimizing the way an EPrints IR presents itself to google and GS (levels of embedding or something like that)? I seem to remember Les saying that the depth of documents was important.<br><br>A DSpace IR, Orbi, has 50% Closed Access contents (for example, here<<a
href="http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/browse?type=datepublished&rpp=20&value=2012" target="_blank">http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/browse?type=datepublished&rpp=20&value=2012</a>>).<br>These are all picked up by Google, for example this one: "Tubulin isoforms identified in the brain by MALDI in-source decay"<br>but they appear very late in the Google hit list (especially for much-sited or multi-cited papers)<br>and the Orbi version does not seem to be picked up by GS at all.<br><br>This is extremely important, because it affects the efficacy of the Button, and thereby the power of an immediate-deposit mandate (and the incentive to adopt one).<br><br>Is there any way to address this problem directly in EPrints (plus advice for our cousins in DSpace)?<br><br>Many thanks,<br><br>Stevan<br><br><br><br>From: Couture Marc <<a ymailto="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a><mailto:<a
ymailto="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca" href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>>><br>Subject: RE: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<br>Date: 4 March, 2013 6:17:13 PM EST<br>To: Stevan Harnad <<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>>, Leslie Carr <<a ymailto="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk">lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk">lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>><br><br>Hi,<br><br>My belief that Google / Scholar doesn't index closed access documents (more precisely, the HTML page with the metadata) is based upon a simple check with two closed access documents in Archipel :<br><br>1. <a
href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252</a><br><br>This is the manuscript of a published article (Title : So into it they forget what time it is?)<br><br>If I put the title (between quotes) in Google or Google Scholar, all I see is the published (toll access) version :<br><br><a href="http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430" target="_blank">http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430</a><br><br>2. <a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254" target="_blank">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254</a><br><br>The title is: Discretionary power of project managers in knowledge intensive firms and gender issues<br><br>Again, Google Scholar finds only the published version (Google doesn't even find it):<br><br><a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract" target="_blank">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract</a><br><br>On the same
results page, one sees another paper, available in open acces in Archipel, citing this one.<br><br>Both manuscripts have been in Archipel for more than one year (deposit date: Nov 2011).<br><br><br>Marc Couture<br><br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <a href="http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/eprints-tech/attachments/20130311/00f733df/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/eprints-tech/attachments/20130311/00f733df/attachment.html</a> <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Eprints-tech mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk" href="mailto:Eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk">Eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech" target="_blank">http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/eprints-tech</a><br><br><br>End of
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