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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Examples of records with no/restricted full-text being indexed by Google Scholar:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No full-text<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://eprints.qut.edu.au/56742/">http://eprints.qut.edu.au/56742/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=intitle%3A%22Finitude+%28V03%29%22+author%3AK-Armstrong">http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=intitle%3A%22Finitude+%28V03%29%22+author%3AK-Armstrong</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Closed access full-text<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://eprints.qut.edu.au/53671/">http://eprints.qut.edu.au/53671/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=intitle%3A%22A+hybrid+model+for+studying+spatial+aspects+of+infectious+diseases%22+author%3AB-Binder">http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=intitle%3A%22A+hybrid+model+for+studying+spatial+aspects+of+infectious+diseases%22+author%3AB-Binder</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C50B45'>Mark Gregson</span></b><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>| Applications and Development Team Leader<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:gray'>Library eServices | Queensland University of Technology<br>Level 3 | R Block | Kelvin Grove Campus | GPO Box 2434 | Brisbane 4001<br>Phone: +61 7 3138 3782 | Web:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#A3A3A3'> </span><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0000FD'><a href="http://www.qut.edu.au/"><span style='color:blue'>http://eprints.qut.edu.au/</span></a><br></span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#0080FF'>ABN: 83 791 724 622<br>CRICOS No: 00213J<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk [mailto:eprints-tech-bounces@ecs.soton.ac.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stevan Harnad<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 5 March 2013 11:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> eprints-tech@ecs.soton.ac.uk<br><b>Cc:</b> Anurag Acharya; Couture Marc<br><b>Subject:</b> [EP-tech] Re: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2013-03-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Brody <<a href="mailto:tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk">tdb2@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:23:06 -0500, Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><br>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have been told that closed access deposits for<br><a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca</a> are not being indexed by Google Scholar: Is<br>there any way around this?<br><br>(I mean the metadata, of course, not the full-text, which I know is<br>unharvestable till access is re-set as OA).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>There's no reason that the metadata pages shouldn't be indexed, but I don't<br>think (?) Google Scholar will list metadata-only records from repositories.<br><br>A specific example would be useful.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It's bad news (for the Button) if GS does not index the metadata of Closed Access deposits. (GS certainly indexes plenty of papers that do not have a free full-text version on the web).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Could this (if it's true) be fixed by optimizing the way an EPrints IR presents itself to google and GS (levels of embedding or something like that)? I seem to remember Les saying that the depth of documents was important.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A DSpace IR, Orbi, has 50% Closed Access contents (for example, <a href="http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/browse?type=datepublished&rpp=20&value=2012">here</a>). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>These are all picked up by Google, for example this one: "Tubulin isoforms identified in the brain by MALDI in-source decay"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>but they appear very late in the Google hit list (especially for much-sited or multi-cited papers)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i>and the Orbi version does not seem to be picked up by GS at all.</i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is extremely important, because it affects the efficacy of the Button, and thereby the power of an immediate-deposit mandate (and the incentive to adopt one).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is there any way to address this problem directly in EPrints (plus advice for our cousins in DSpace)?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Stevan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b>Couture Marc <<a href="mailto:marc.couture@teluq.ca">marc.couture@teluq.ca</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject: RE: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Date: </b>4 March, 2013 6:17:13 PM EST<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>To: </b>Stevan Harnad <<a href="mailto:harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk">harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>>, Leslie Carr <<a href="mailto:lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk">lac@ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi,<br><br>My belief that Google / Scholar doesn't index closed access documents (more precisely, the HTML page with the metadata) is based upon a simple check with two closed access documents in Archipel :<br><br>1. <a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252</a> <br><br>This is the manuscript of a published article (Title : So into it they forget what time it is?)<br><br>If I put the title (between quotes) in Google or Google Scholar, all I see is the published (toll access) version :<br><br><a href="http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430">http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430</a> <br><br>2. <a href="http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254">http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254</a> <br><br>The title is: Discretionary power of project managers in knowledge intensive firms and gender issues<br><br>Again, Google Scholar finds only the published version (Google doesn't even find it):<br><br><a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract</a> <br><br>On the same results page, one sees another paper, available in open acces in Archipel, citing this one.<br><br>Both manuscripts have been in Archipel for more than one year (deposit date: Nov 2011).<br><br><br>Marc Couture<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>