[EP-tech] Re: Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?

[Stevan Harnad]

On 2013-03-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Brody <tdb2 at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:23:06 -0500, Stevan Harnad <harnad at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been told that closed access deposits for
>> http://www.archipel.uqam.ca are not being indexed by Google Scholar: Is
>> there any way around this?
>> 
>> (I mean the metadata, of course, not the full-text, which I know is
>> unharvestable till access is re-set as OA).
> 
> There's no reason that the metadata pages shouldn't be indexed, but I don't
> think (?) Google Scholar will list metadata-only records from repositories.
> 
> A specific example would be useful.

It's bad news (for the Button) if GS does not index the metadata of Closed Access deposits. (GS certainly indexes plenty of papers that do not have a free full-text version on the web).

Could this (if it's true) be fixed by optimizing the way an EPrints IR presents itself to google and GS (levels of embedding or something like that)? I seem to remember Les saying that the depth of documents was important.

A DSpace IR, Orbi, has 50% Closed Access contents (for example, here). 
These are all picked up by Google, for example this one: "Tubulin isoforms identified in the brain by MALDI in-source decay"
but they appear very late in the Google hit list (especially for much-sited or multi-cited papers)
and the Orbi version does not seem to be picked up by GS at all.

This is extremely important, because it affects the efficacy of the Button, and thereby the power of an immediate-deposit mandate (and the incentive to adopt one).

Is there any way to address this problem directly in EPrints (plus advice for our cousins in DSpace)?

Many thanks,

Stevan

> 

> From: Couture Marc <marc.couture at teluq.ca>
> Subject: RE: [EP-tech] Are Closed Access Deposits Indexed by Google Scholar?
> Date: 4 March, 2013 6:17:13 PM EST
> To: Stevan Harnad <harnad at ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Leslie Carr <lac at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> My belief that Google / Scholar doesn't index closed access documents (more precisely, the HTML page with the metadata) is based upon a simple check with two closed access documents in Archipel :
> 
> 1. http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4252 
> 
> This is the manuscript of a published article (Title : So into it they forget what time it is?)
> 
> If I put the title (between quotes) in Google or Google Scholar, all I see is the published (toll access) version :
> 
> http://www.igi-global.com/chapter/into-they-forget-time/67430 
> 
> 2. http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/4254 
> 
> The title is: Discretionary power of project managers in knowledge intensive firms and gender issues
> 
> Again, Google Scholar finds only the published version (Google doesn't even find it):
> 
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cjas.147/abstract 
> 
> On the same results page, one sees another paper, available in open acces in Archipel, citing this one.
> 
> Both manuscripts have been in Archipel for more than one year (deposit date: Nov 2011).
> 
> 
> Marc Couture
> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/eprints-tech/attachments/20130305/8151ad62/attachment.html