<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">On Jul 11, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Stevan Harnad wrote:</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><div class="" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;direction:ltr">
<br class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px"><b>SH: </b><a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014/07/09/implementing-chorus-big-decisions-loom-for-publishers/">CHORUS</a> is a Trojan Horse, designed so that publishers retain control </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">over the timing, terms and territory of any transition to Open Access. </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">Think about it. </span><a href="http://j.mp/TrojanHorseChorus" rel="nofollow" style="border:0px;font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;margin:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(58,105,153);text-decoration:none;outline:none;line-height:23px">http://j.mp/TrojanHorseChorus</a></div>
</blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;direction:ltr"><a href="http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014/07/09/implementing-chorus-big-decisions-loom-for-publishers/#comment-141773">David Wojick</a> replied (in the SSP Scholarly Kitchen):</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px"><b>DW:</b> Nonsense! It is the Feds that are asserting control via the US Public Access program. </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">CHORUS is an attempt to minimize the damage that more Federal repositories like </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">PMC will cause. CHORUS will improve scientific communication while reducing </span></div>
<div class="" style="direction:ltr"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">Federal expenses. It is an elegant solution to a difficult problem.</span></div></blockquote>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px"><b>SH:</b> The Feds are (rightly) asserting control over the research output that the public funds </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">by mandating public access to it. Doesn’t sound like nonsense to me. (Some) publishers </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">are trying to slow the provision of public access to publicly funded research (by embargoing it) </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">and are angling to remain the ones who provide the access, so that they retain control and </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">proprietorship over both the research output and the provision of access to it. That doesn’t </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">sound like nonsense to me either — just self-interest in a profound conflict of interest </span></div>
<div class="" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;direction:ltr"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">between those who fund, conduct and provide the research output (the Feds, the public, and </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">researchers) on the one hand, and those who manage the peer review of that research output </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">(publishers). The peers (researchers) review for free. It is not nonsense to attempt to hold onto </span><font color="#333333" face="georgia, serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:23px">a cushy deal by “minimizing the damage” for as long as possible </span></font><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">to the inflated income streams </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">to which they</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px"> have long grown accustomed</span><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:23px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif">. The Feds, the public, and researchers can only hope </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">that this damage-limitation attempt will fail. And it will -- though perhaps not until after yet </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px">another round of delay tactics, of which CHORUS and the lobbying for it are a prominent instance.</span></div>
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<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:14px;line-height:23px"><b>Stevan Harnad</b></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:23px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:georgia,serif"><br>
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