<div>Seb Schmoller has sent a better URL for the HEFCE REF Call for comments.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Stevan,<br><a href="http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/hefce/content/news/news/2013/open_access_letter.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/<u></u>hefce/content/news/news/2013/<u></u>open_access_letter.pdf</a> might be easier for some people.<br>
Seb Schmoller</blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">I have read it all, very quickly, and it does look very promising, if I have understood it correctly: </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br>
</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">The proposal (for the only category in which I have some expertise) is: </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br></div><blockquote style="font-family:Helvetica;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div>To mandate that in order to be eligible for post-2014 REF</div><div>all peer-reviewed journal articles submitted</div><div>must be deposited in the author's institutional repository </div><div>immediately upon acceptance for publication,</div>
<div>regardless of whether the article is published in a subscription journal or in a Gold OA journal </div><div><i>(no preference, and no restriction on author's journal choice),</i></div><div>and regardless of whether the publisher embargoes Open Access to the deposit </div>
<div>(for an allowable embargo period that remains to be decided.)</div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">If I have understood this correctly, then there is only one ambiguity I think I see, which I think needs to be resolved very clearly: </div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">There may be inter-discipline differences regarding the allowable OA embargo length, but there should be no inter-discipline differences at all regarding the immediate-deposit requirement itself. </div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">(Closed Access deposit has nothing to do with publisher policy, copyright, embargoes, or discipline differences).</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">
<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">The proposed HEFCE REF OA policy looks much better than the current RCUK OA policy. Let us hope that the RCUK policy will now be brought into line with the proposed HEFCE REF policy.</div>
<div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica">It is also very reassuring to hear that the policy will be based on collaboration and consultation.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica"><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica">This may help the UK regain its former worldwide leadership position in OA. The new US policy developments (following, a decade later, in the UK's pioneering footsteps) are extremely welcome and timely, but they still have many rough edges. Let's hope it will be the UK that again shows how to smooth them out and propel us all unstoppably to global OA.</span> </div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Stevan Harnad</div>