[BOAI] Prophylactic Against Elsevier Predation
Jean-Claude Guédon
jean.claude.guedon at umontreal.ca
Wed May 18 13:49:03 BST 2016
Stevan would be entirely right if the set of green institutional
repositories formed a network. However, for the moment, they are just
that: a set of repositories with minimal interoperability among them. As
institutional repositories, they tend to respond more to local
institutional politics than to worldwide concerns. What needs to be done
is deepen and extend infrastructural work such as OpenAIRE and/or La
Referencia. And yes! Thematic repositories are also useful. In fact, a
good way to grow a network of institutional repositories is to make them
offer thematic and disciplinary filters to offer distributed resources
organized around fields, questions, etc.
For years, I have argued that there is no one single solution to make OA
work. Many of the approaches proposed complement each other. Mixing and
matching Green and Gold will happen, as I argued years ago
(http://eprints.rclis.org/5860/; see also
http://eprints.rclis.org/11791/) . Furthermore, the point of OA advocacy
is not to divide and exclude people, but rather assemble and congregate,
except where the proposed solutions run against the objectives of Open
Access.
And whatever Stevan may think, ArXiv remains a monument for the OA
movement; we should do all we can to support it rather than point
publicly at its alleged weakness. Kudos to Paul Ginsparg for this
wonderful achievement.
--
Jean-Claude Guédon
Professeur titulaire
Littérature comparée
Université de Montréal
Le mercredi 18 mai 2016 à 08:26 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit :
> The worldwide distributed network of Green Institutional Repositories
> is by far the best prophylactic against Elsevier predation. I hope
> universities and research funders will be awake enough to realize this
> rather than falling for quick "solutions" that continue to hold their
> research output hostage to the increasingly predatory publishing
> industry.
>
>
>
> "We have nothing to lose but our chains..."
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:53 AM, Paul Walk <paul.walk at bath.edu> wrote:
>
> "The software may change, but you can't sell off a distributed
> network of independent repositories.”
>
> I agree, and I think that this is the crucial point. The
> software doesn’t matter (well, it does matter, but it doesn’t
> affect this principle). It’s about the distribution of
> *control*.
>
> We are truly fortunate to have a global, distributed
> infrastructure of institutional repositories which are
> (mostly) under institutional control. This is quite an unusual
> arrangement these days - and I think we should regard it as
> precious and inherently powerful in its denial of the
> possibility of “ownership” by one party.
>
> We should do what we can to both hang on to this
> infrastructure, and to exploit it more fully, in pursuit of a
> better scholarly communications system.
>
> Paul
>
> > On 17 May 2016, at 22:06, Leslie Carr <lac at ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > The software may change, but you can't sell off a
> distributed network of independent repositories.
> >
> > Prof Leslie Carr
> > Web Science institute
> > #⃣ webscience #⃣ openaccess
> >
> > On 17 May 2016, at 21:35, Joachim SCHOPFEL
> <joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr<mailto:joachim.schopfel at univ-lille3.fr>> wrote:
> >
> > Uh - "the distributed network of Green institutional
> repositories worldwide is not for sale"? Not so sure - the
> green institutional repositories can be replaced by other
> solutions, can't they ? Better solutions, more
> functionalities, more added value, more efficient, better
> connected to databases and gold/hybrid journals etc.
> >
> > ----- Mail d'origine -----
> > De: Stevan Harnad
> <amsciforum at gmail.com<mailto:amsciforum at gmail.com>>
> > À: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> <goal at eprints.org<mailto:goal at eprints.org>>
> > Envoyé: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:18 +0200 (CEST)
> > Objet: Re: [GOAL] SSRN Sellout to Elsevier
> >
> > Shame on SSRN.
> >
> > Of course we know exactly why Elsevier acquired SSRN (and
> Mendeley):
> >
> > It's to retain their stranglehold over a domain
> (peer-reviewed scholarly/scientific research publishing) in
> which they are no longer needed, and in which they would not
> even have been able to gain as much as a foothold if it had
> been born digital, instead of being inherited as a legacy from
> an obsolete Gutenberg era.
> >
> > I don't know about Arxiv (needless centralization and its
> concentrated expenses are always vulnerabe to faux-benign
> take-overs) but what's sure is that the distributed network of
> Green institutional repositories worldwide is not for sale,
> and that is their strength...
> >
> > Stevan Harnad
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Bo-Christer Björk
> <bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi<mailto:bo-Christer.bjork at hanken.fi>> wrote:
> >
> > This is an interesting news item which should interest the
> > readers of this list. Let's hope arXiv is not for sale.
> >
> > Bo-Christer Björk
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject:
> > Message from Mike Jensen, SSRN Chairman
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Michael C. Jensen
> <admin at ssrn.com><mailto:admin at ssrn.com>
> > Reply-To:
> > support at ssrn.com<mailto:support at ssrn.com>
> > To:
> bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi<mailto:bo-christer.bjork at hanken.fi>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> [http://papers.ssrn.com/Organizations/images/ihp_ssrnlogo.png]<http://hq.ssrn.com/GroupProcesses/RedirectClick.cfm?partid=2338421&corid=4024&runid=15740&url=http://www.ssrn.com> [http://static.ssrn.com/Images/Header/socialnew.gif]
> >
> >
> > Dear SSRN Authors,
> >
> >
> > SSRN announced today that it has changed ownership. SSRN is
> > joining Mendeley<https://www.mendeley.com/?signout> and
> Elsevier<https://www.elsevier.com>
> > to coordinate our development and delivery of new products
> and
> > services, and we look forward to our new access to data,
> products,
> > and additional resources that this change facilitates. (See
> Gregg
> > Gordon’s Elsevier
> >
> Connect<https://www.elsevier.com/connect/ssrn-the-leading-social-science-and-humanities-repository-and-online-community-joins-elsevier> post)
> >
> >
> > Like SSRN, Mendeley and Elsevier are focused on creating
> tools
> > that enhance researcher workflow and productivity. SSRN has
> been
> > at the forefront of on-line sharing of working papers. We
> are
> > committed to continue our innovation and this change will
> enable
> > that to happen more quickly. SSRN will benefit from access
> to the
> > vast new data and resources available, including Mendeley’s
> > reference management and personal library management tools,
> their
> > new researcher profile capabilities, and social networking
> > features. Importantly, we will also have new access for SSRN
> > members to authoritative performance measurement tools such
> as
> > those powered by
> Scopus<https://www.elsevier.com/solutions/scopus> and
> >
> Newsflo<http://hq.ssrn.com/GroupProcesses/RedirectClick.cfm?partid=2338421&corid=4024&runid=15740&url=http://www.newsflo.net>
> > (a global media tracking tool). In addition, SSRN, Mendeley
> and
> > Elsevier together can cooperatively build bridges to close
> the
> > divide between the previously separate worlds and workflows
> of
> > working papers and published papers.
> >
> >
> > We realize that this change may create some concerns about
> the
> > intentions of a legacy publisher acquiring an open-access
> working
> > paper repository. I shared this concern. But after much
> discussion
> > about this matter and others in determining if Mendeley and
> > Elsevier would be a good home for SSRN, I am convinced that
> they
> > would be good stewards of our mission. And our copyright
> policies
> > are not in conflict -- our policy has always been to host
> only
> > papers that do not infringe on copyrights. I expect we will
> have
> > some conflicts as we align our interests, but I believe
> those will
> > be surmountable.
> >
> >
> > Until recently I was convinced that the SSRN community was
> best
> > served being a stand-alone entity. But in evaluating our
> future in
> > the evolving landscape, I came to believe that SSRN would
> benefit
> > from being more interconnected and with the resources
> available
> > from a larger organization. For example, there is scale in
> systems
> > administration and security, and SSRN can provide more value
> to
> > users with access to more data and resources.
> >
> >
> > On a personal note, it has been an honor to be involved over
> the
> > past 25 years in the founding and growth of the SSRN website
> and
> > the incredible community of authors, researchers and
> institutions
> > that has made this all possible. I consider it one of my
> great
> > accomplishments in life. The community would not have been
> > successful without the commitment of so many of you who have
> > contributed in so many ways. I am proud of the community we
> have
> > created, and I invite you to continue your involvement and
> support
> > in this effort.
> >
> >
> > The staff at SSRN are all staying (including Gregg Gordon,
> CEO and
> > myself), the Rochester office is still in place, it will
> still be
> > free to upload and download papers, and we remain committed
> to
> > “Tomorrow’s Research Today”. I look forward to and am
> committed to
> > a successful transition and to another great 25 years for
> the SSRN
> > community that rivals the first.
> >
> >
> > Michael C. Jensen
> >
> > Founder & Chairman, SSRN
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
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