[BOAI] Fwd: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] RE: Simple Explanation of the Green Road

[Stevan Harnad]

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> From: Sandy Thatcher <sandy.thatcher at alumni.princeton.edu>
> Subject: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] RE: Simple Explanation of the Green Road
> Date: 24 September, 2012 4:25:46 PM EDT
> To: "Beall, Jeffrey" <Jeffrey.Beall at ucdenver.edu>, "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)" <goal at eprints.org>
> Cc: "scholcomm at ala.org" <scholcomm at ala.org>
> Reply-To: "Global Open Access List \(Successor of AmSci\)" <goal at eprints.org>
> 
> I don't find the advice overall nearly as objectionable as Jeffrey does--and I speak as a former publisher of academic journals. After all, the advice does include this important caveat: "The policy must not try to require the publisher's formatted PDF or any copyediting, just the author's final text - authors can include any copyedits or broader meta-data if they wish but the policy must not require it." (I think Prof. Adams might want to qualify that latter advice by saying that authors who include copyediting do so at their own legal risk; they could be sued for breach of contract.)  I don't see much here that Stevan harnad, for example, has not said many times--including the use of the eprint request button.
> 
> Sandy Thatcher
> 
> 
> At 11:17 AM -0600 9/24/12, Beall, Jeffrey wrote:
>> I found the advice given in this "explanation" to be cavalier. The document says,
>>  
>> "Don't let a lawyer worry you with tales of copyright infringement lawsuits. No publisher has ever sued a university over making their academics' papers available. At most you need to respond to "take-down" requests by setting access to closed instead of open (never remove a paper from the IR, just set its access as closed, unless the paper is formally withdrawn by the journal for academic misconduct)."
>>  
>> Professor Adams, is this the type of practice you teach your students in your business ethics classes?
>>  
>> I work at a state-sponsored university, and here we are obliged to respect the existing laws. We also want to maintain good working relationships with publishers and to set a good example for our students. We don't do business like this.
>>  
>> I would encourage people to reject Professor Adams' insolent advice.
>>  
>>  
>> Jeffrey Beall, MA, MSLS, Associate Professor
>> Scholarly Initiatives Librarian
>> Auraria Library
>> University of Colorado Denver
>> 1100 Lawrence St.
>> Denver, Colo.  80204 USA
>> (303) 556-5936
>> jeffrey.beall at ucdenver.edu
>>  
>>  
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>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] On Behalf Of Andrew A. Adams
>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:11 PM
>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
>> Subject: [GOAL] Simple Explanation of the Green Road
>>  
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>> Having written too many emails individually to people explaining the Green Road to Open Access and what I see as the optimum route and the errors various universities make in attempting to implement the Green Road, I was moved to write up a simple guide on my web site. Should you agree with the approach, please feel free to refer people to this guide.
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>> http://www.a-cubed.info/OA/
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>> Professor Andrew A Adams                      aaa at meiji.ac.jp
>> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
>> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/
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