[BOAI] Fwd: AmSci Forum Migrating to Global Open Access List (GOAL): New Moderator, Richard Poynder

[Stevan Harnad]

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> From: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum at GMAIL.COM>
> Date: December 13, 2011 12:02:05 PM EST
> To: AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM at LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG
> Subject: AmSci Forum Migrating to Global Open Access List (GOAL): New Moderator, Richard Poynder
> Reply-To: American Scientist Open Access Forum <AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM at LISTSERVER.SIGMAXI.ORG>
> 
> Dear AmSci Forum,
> 
> The straw poll is complete (the full results are reproduced at the end
> of this message).
> 
> The vote is for (1) continuing the Forum, under (2) the moderatorship
> of Richard Poynder.
> 
> The AmSci list will now be migrating to
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal where the BOAI
> list is also being hosted.
> 
> You need not re-subscribe. Your subscription will be automatically
> transferred to the new host site.
> 
> The name of the list has been changed to the Global Open Access List
> (GOAL) to reflect the fact that Open Access is no longer just an
> American or a Scientific matter. It has become a global movement.
> 
> The old AmSci Forum Archives (1998-2011) will stay up at the Sigma Xi
> site (indefinitely, I hope -- though we do have copies of the entire
> archive).
> 
> The new GOAL archive, starting 2012  will be at:
> 
> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/
> 
> (Till the end of December, AmSci and GOAL will run in duplicate.
> Although we hope the transfer will be smooth, there may be a few
> glitches. We apologize and hope you will be patient until they are
> sorted out.)
> 
> Stevan Harnad (soon to be replaced by Richard Poynder!)
> 
> ---
> 
> Below are the complete results of Straw Poll on whether to continue
> the Forum, and on who should be the new moderator:
> 
> AGAINST CONTINUING AMSCI:
> 
> ARIF JINHA: I believe it would be better to have one forum, the BOAI.
> This forum has developed a doctrinal bias defined by the values and
> personality of its leadership.  Though the leadership is to be
> commended for its credibility and vigour, it is not without its blind
> spots. It has not always OPEN to a diversity of perspectives.  AMSCI
> is driven by assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold
> OA publishing.  The rush to conclusion on the right path is premature
> and overly authoritative in its expression, therefore it is
> alienating.  In truth, we have only really got started with the web in
> the last 10 years and authority is completely flattened by the
> learning curve. The BOAI is much wider in its representation of Open
> Access alternatives, it is therefore more neutral as well as having a
> wider reach for the promotion of Green OA.  It means less duplication
> and less work devoted to instant communication, giving more time to
> develop a rigorous and scientific approach to meta-scholarship in the
> digital age.
> 
> FOR CONTINUING AMSCI:
> 
> DANA ROTH: I would disagree with Arif Jinha, in that it is the
> 'assertive and competitive advocacy for mandates over Gold OA
> publishing' that make AMSCI such an interesting listserv.
> 
> SUBBIAH ARUNACHALAM: First, I wish to express my grateful thanks to
> Stevan for all that he has done so far, and in particular for
> moderating this Forum for so long and so well. That he will continue
> to devote much of his time to promoting open access and institutional
> repositories gives me strength to do the same. Second, if Richard
> Poynder agrees (or if we could persuade him) to moderate this list,
> there is nothing like it. The baton would have moved to safe hands.
> Not only he has the stamina of a long distance runner, but he is also
> endowed with the qualities needed for a moderator. He is knowledgeable
> and levelheaded. Welcome Richard!
> 
> DOMINIQUE BABINI: Discussions and ideas in this forum are also
> inspiring for regional OA forums and lists, e.g., the Latin America
> and the Caribbean Open Access List (LLAAR, in Spanish). Thank you,
> Stevan, for your dedication as moderator all these years, and
> especially for your new OA initiatives and ideas. Thank you for your
> Skype contribution at the OA Experts Meeting last week in UNESCO
> headquarters, where we missed you [in person].  I also support Richard
> Poynder as [new] moderator for this Forum.
> 
> MICHAEL E. SMITH: I am in favor of continuing the list, and either of
> the people you mentioned as potential moderators would be good
> choices.
> 
> PAOLA GARGIULO: I also agree that the list should continue. I'm in
> favour or Richard Poynder as moderator. Hope you will continue to
> contribute.
> 
> PETER SUBER: If Richard is willing to moderate, I vote for him.  I
> second Alma's reasons why Richard would do well in this role.  I
> second Arthur's best wishes to you, and I second (or third) Barbara
> and Hélène's tribute to your work.  Finally, as the former moderator
> of SOAF and BOAI, I welcome you to civilian life.  It's amazing what
> one can do when one has more time to do it.
> 
> BERNARD RENTIER: I vote for Richard Poynder. The excellence of his
> critical and fair papers speaks for his designation. If he is willing
> to do that, I am sure he will be an outstanding moderator. And that
> this will let Stevan be even more tirelessly to the point in every
> debate!
> 
> TOM COCHRANE: The value of the Forum cannot be overstated. It has
> provided a unique service in assessing the events and health of OA
> developments. It would be a regressive step in several ways if it were
> to fall over. It is not too much to claim that its way of charting
> developments, alerting readers to new issues, identifying useful
> research and work on OA, and in your hands, reminding its readership
> of the main issues – all these have had a direct impact on practical
> developments. This has occurred to a degree that no single one of us –
> from whatever part of the world -  can comprehensively take in. But
> believe me, it has played a vital role. But individual workloads need
> to be shared, and we at QUT understand your reasoning. We are happy
> with the Richard Poynder suggestion.
> 
> ELOY RODRIGUES:  I also support Richard Poynder for moderator.  I
> strongly support the continuation of the AmSci Forum, and I regret
> your decision of stepping down as moderator (even though I understand
> your reasons, and I do hope that it will turn out the right decision
> for you, and your efforts for OA progress).  Thanks for your tireless
> work for Open Access! All the best (from Rio de Janeiro, where I was
> also archivangilizing for ID/OA mandates, at the Portuguese-Brazilian
> OA conference).
> 
> KEITH JEFFERY: I am sorry it has come to this; you know I support your
> point of view and moderation does require correction of misconceptions
> as well as just posting. I wish the Amsci list to continue and Richard
> is, of course, an excellent choice as future moderator.
> 
> ANDREW A ADAMS: I am in favour of the forum continuing to operate. I
> feel Richard would make an excellent new moderator.
> 
> PIPPA SMART: I am in favour of the forum continuing and would be very
> happy for Richard Poynder to moderate.
> 
> MARC COUTURE: I definitely wish the forum to continue. I may be only
> the occasional contributor, but I've always been a very steady reader.
> As to you not being the moderator anymore, I think it's even a good
> thing, not because I share the opinion that a moderator should be
> neutral and discreet, but because it will spare you some precious time
> you could devote to useful purposes, OA-related or not. Note that I
> assume we will continue to benefit, in the forum, from the seemingly
> inexhaustible energy and the flawless, razor-sharp logic of our
> "weary" archivangelist.
> 
> BARRY MAHON:  As a long time stirring stick in the OA (hard to know
> what word to use to describe it) world, and having crossed swords with
> both Stevan and Richard over the years, I have a heavy heart in
> accepting Stevan's decision but an uplift that Richard has
> volunteered. It will, I wish, go on....and I'll be there, or here,
> whichever is the more appropriate.
> 
> JEAN-CLAUDE GUÉDON: I also think this list should go on. And  having
> Richard or Thomas moderate is a good idea too.
> 
> BOB PARKS: Congratulations on stepping down. I hope it gives you more
> time to pursue OA!!! Either Krichel or Poynder would be a good
> moderator.  I fear that Krichel is over committed.
> 
> HEATHER MORRISON: Thanks very much for moderating the list all these
> years! I hope that the list will continue, and would support either
> Richard Poynder or Thomas Krichel as moderators.
> 
> SALLY MORRIS: The support for Richard as moderator of the continuing
> list seems clear. We really don't need to see all the messages - I
> thought that was the point of keeping them off the list?
> 
> THOMAS KRICHEL: I think it should continue, as it appears to be the
> largest and most active forum.  I volunteer to do it….  If Richard
> wants to do it, I'd be happy not to.
> 
> RICHARD POYNDER: Well I certainly vote for it to continue. I would
> even put my name down for the moderator's hat if it was felt
> appropriate for a journalist to run such a forum, and people believed
> I could do the job adequately
> 
> ALMA SWAN: I am writing to nominate Richard Poynder as the new
> moderator for the AmSci Forum. I think he brings the right qualities -
> amongst them honesty, fairness, intellectual curiousness and
> efficiency - and is hugely respected as an independent, critical
> thinker on the issues that AmSci covers. I want the Forum to continue
> because it is a real discussion list rather than a bulletin board…
> 
> HELENE BOSC: In memory of the remarkable work done by Stevan Harnad
> for Open Access through this list, during 14 years, I wish it
> continues... Richard Poynder would be a perfect moderator!
> 
> BARBARA KIRSOP: If Stevan feels he can better operate in support of OA
> not as the moderator, then it would be great indeed if Richard Poynder
> would adopt the mantle. I think AMSCI should continue. I am somewhat
> in favour of a name change to highlight OA rather than the US - a name
> change could be a mini-re-launch perhaps and bring in new contributors
> - a fitting tribute to Stevan's past efforts.
> 
> ARTHUR SALE: May I wish you the best as non-moderator. It is the right
> decision for you, I think. This may be a shock to you that I think
> that it is a plus, but I think we need to get new ideas into the OA
> transition, and you have done your bit and a lot more… and perhaps I
> can even convince you eventually that the Titanium Road is the way to
> go now! You will be bombarded with messages begging you to reconsider,
> but I do think it is the right decision. Then you can enjoy being
> yourself without constraint. No one person can bear the weight of the
> world, not even Atlas.
> 
> IRYNA KUCHMA:The AmSci Open Access Forum is an active discussion forum
> (SOAF and BOAI are more like the announcement lists) and my answer is
> (1) definitely to continue. It's sad that you've decided to step down
> as a moderator. I wish I could help you with moderating it, but I am
> travelling a lot and sometimes not able to moderate the BOAI on time….
> Hope you will find the ways to continue.
> 
> EUGENE GARFIELD: When I think about Stevan Harnad another information
> pioneer comes to mind. The Belgian documentalist Paul Otlet. His
> collaborator Henri LaFontaine,  received the Nobel Peace Prize. That's
> the kind of recognition that Stevan deserves.
> 
> MICHAEL KURTZ: I liked that AMSCI reflected your point of view, I value that,
> and expect I will always.  I hope I will always be able to discover
> it, perhaps you will frequently post.

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