[BOAI] Re: Wrong Advice On Open Access: History Repeating Itself

[BANDARA,Swarna]

This is an interesitng question.
> Elsevier acccepts the post-print publication
> under the conditon that one does not use the
> Elsevier logo.
>
Elsevier has cleaer guidelines for preprint archival for most of their journals. Here is the extract and the link
"An author may post his version of the final paper on his personal Web site and on his institution's Web site (including its institutional repository). Each posting should include the article's citation and a link to the journal's home page (or the article's DOI),"
"The author does not need our permission to do this, but any other posting (e.g., to a repository elsewhere) would require our permission. By ‘his version' we are referring to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded from Science Direct—but the author can update his version to reflect changes made during the refereeing and editing process.”
http://newsbreaks.infotoday.com/nbreader.asp?ArticleID=16436

> Can anymore please answer the pre-print question:
> will a commercial publisher accept that one put
> on one's institution IR the pre-prints of the
> papers to be later published in their journals?

A paper can be archived in an IR as a technical report before the publication. In fact this give the author the opportunity to add more details as there is no restriction on the length of the paper. Some scietists look in IR for detailed technical reports when they fund an interesting artcle that is published.  When the article is published one can alwasy archive the preprints as well, if the publisher allows that.
I agree that no one should publish with the publishers who would not allow institutional archvial.

Thanks

Swarna Bandara
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Subject: [BOAI] Re: Wrong Advice On Open Access: History Repeating Itself

Quoting Françoise Salager-Meyer <francoise.sm at gmail.com>:

> >I agree that the only solution is aN INSTITUTIONAL MANDATE. My question is:
>
> In view of the fact that all researchers want to
> publish in top-notch jornals (the 5.000 core
> journals), isnt' there an incompatibility between
> the pre-print publishing of peer-reviewed papers
> and the subsequent publishing of the papers in
> one such journal? Will the publisher agree that
> the pre-print be published?

What is 'core' changes over time - the more you support free OA journsls, the
more likely it is that they will enter the core.

> I have a problem, for example, with the
> commercial publisher Peter Lang. It does NOT
> allow me to put in my institutional repository
> the papers (post-print) that have been published
> in Peter Lang books.

Don't publish with publishers that won't allow post-print archiving - go with
those that will. Or, better, publish in true OA journals.

> Elsevier acccepts the post-print publication
> under the conditon that one does not use the
> Elsevier logo.
>
> Can anymore please answer the pre-print question:
> will a commercial publisher accept that one put
> on one's institution IR the pre-prints of the
> papers to be later published in their journals?

That is a decision for the individual publisher - there is no general answer.
Some will, some won't.

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